John Locke's Manual Vs. Course

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I'm wanting to learn more about Sub2, and I'm considering John Locke's materials (based on rave reviews on the board). Should I start with the Subject to Training Manual or wait and save up for the Subject to Training Course? It looks like the training manual is included in the course, and I don't want to waste the initial purchase price if I decide to get the training course later. Is the training course available without the manual should I decide to "upgrade" later?

Any suggestions?

Comments(6)

  • Stockpro991st June, 2004

    I will say that I have the manual and it is really top flight. John is a prince of a human being who really does take an interest in those who sincerely want to learn. I consider myself a newbie in many ways and John has taken me in hand. I am sure that the course is excellent!

    Randall
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  • marc_hoffmann2nd June, 2004

    I think if you decide to go ahead with the course, he'll credit the difference from the manual.

  • LVREI13th June, 2004

    If you are very new to subject to I would go for the entire course. He takes you from A-Z including his coveted DMS (direct marketing system) and as you know the 'presentation" manual is included. Probably in my opion one of the best courses on the subject. Now if your familar with the technique and need a clear, crisp, concise way of talking to sellers than go for the manual only. It's certainly changed my financial "bottom line"

    Jay

  • LarryNut22nd June, 2004

    This is the way I look at it. I paid over $700 for the CS course. In return I got a phone call from a "coach" telling me I needed to sign up for thousands of dollars more (to learn how to buy with no money, ironicly...lol)

    I paid (well my dad did) almost a grand for Dave Lindahl's course. In return I got a certificate for help via email for a year with certain guidlines and restrictions.

    Yes, both of these courses were worth the money through knowledge gained and applied.
    BEFORE I bought John's COURSE, I spent hours reading his forum and posts for FREE. I was given the opportunity to receive LIFETIME support through this and other websites, email, and cell phone #.

    If I dial a 1800 number for the cs program looking for help, I do not hear "Carleton here!"
    How could I have called this man and said "John, I only spent 50 bucks for your manual, can you help me out?"
    I thought the very least I could do was pay the man off, thank him for not charging $10 a minute for a call, and write it off on my taxes.
    Last but not least, your first deal will pay for it!!!! Heck your first down payment from a buyer will pay for it.

    Not trying to offend or overlypatronize, just calling it like I see it.

  • Wulfster22nd June, 2004

    I appreciate the feedback. I bought the manual a few weeks back. and I'm excited about the prospects. I'm getting everything set up right now, but I'll probably go back and purchase the whole course in the near future.

    Thanks for all of the advise. I'm very happy with the purchase!

  • LarryNut23rd June, 2004

    My bad, I stand corrected. I just checked and seen the manual is actually $189.00, not $50.

    Anyway, good for you for making the investment. If you are like me and spend more time driving than you do at home reading, you will appreciate having all the extra cds should you decide to go back and get them. Good Luck

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