Shortting The 2nd Only With The Same Lender

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Has anyone ever SS the second with the same lender and took over the first (sub2)?



Thanks,



Souza-GA

Comments(17)

  • jackbenimble17th January, 2008

    The bank will determine what they will accept based on the value determined by the Short Sale lender. They determine this by 1. drive by appraisal 2. interior appraisal. The amount currently owed or the current listing price is virtually meaningless in their decision making. If the offer is substantially lower 15%+ than their pre determined (drive by) value they are most likely going to request an interior inspection. My guess is that an interior has not been completed yet since they just took over the loan. If you can find out when/what that inspection came in at then I can give you a MUCH better idea if they will accept your offer. What was your offer?[ Edited by jackbenimble on Date 01/17/2008 ]

  • ConfusedMomma17th January, 2008

    Hi there,

    Property Listed at $ 809,000

    We offerred $ 755,000

    (Apparently, the 1st loan is for $ 849,000)

    What do you think???

    Thanks again!

  • cjmazur18th January, 2008

    check the contract. Not all are binding on the seller unless you sue.

  • ypochris18th January, 2008

    On that I certainly agree- a lender would be quite foolish not to jump on your offer in this market.

    Chris

  • ICGPROPERTIES21st January, 2008

    Of course they will go below the value of the first, that is why we call it a "short sale"

    The shennanagins with CW and USB are because your agent doesnt seem to know what they are doing regarding a short sale-pretty common.

    as far as pricing and offers, I personally would be offereing USB no higher than the 500K range-maybe lower.[ Edited by ICGPROPERTIES on Date 01/21/2008 ]

  • cjmazur20th January, 2008

    have you thought about purchasing the 2nd, or does that make the property upside down.

  • justice2970821st January, 2008

    Numbers just do not work if I have to pay full second note. I would rather let it go to the foreclosure court in a few weeks and see if I can get it.

    Does anyone have any contacts at wachovia? I have their 800 number but I am not sure how to approach them on reducing their not which is the second. My lender says that they should be willing to deal since if it goes to auction the the 1st note lender will get payed first and most like they will be out of luck on their note.

    Does anyone have suggestions on what to offer?

    Another problem is the owner I am dealing with is a dope head and does not know any of his account info on the second note. I do have his dob,name , property address, and contract signed by him agreeing to sell to my for first note pay off.

    This is my first time please any help would be great.

  • justice2970821st January, 2008

    Numbers just do not work if I have to pay full second note. I would rather let it go to the foreclosure court in a few weeks and see if I can get it.

    Does anyone have any contacts at wachovia? I have their 800 number but I am not sure how to approach them on reducing their not which is the second. My lender says that they should be willing to deal since if it goes to auction the the 1st note lender will get payed first and most like they will be out of luck on their note.

    Does anyone have suggestions on what to offer?

    Another problem is the owner I am dealing with is a dope head and does not know any of his account info on the second note. I do have his dob,name , property address, and contract signed by him agreeing to sell to my for first note pay off.

    This is my first time please any help would be great.

  • TheShortSalePro25th January, 2008

    The seller need not be there. Not only the HUD 1 would need to be signed, in advance, but the deed, affidavit of title, etc.

  • ShortSalesinCO25th January, 2008

    We have our sellers attend every closing with us. In addition, we have the sellers sign a limited power of atty on every deal in case they decide to skip and in case we need to correct errors.

  • ypochris25th January, 2008

    No seller at my last closing and it was a pain as there were items of dispute. We wound up walking (we were the buyers), although we did come back a week later and close the deal.

    Chris

  • NewKidInTown326th January, 2008

    I have done lots of closings by overnight mail both as the buyer and as the seller. Fax machine, wire transfers, and FedEx means I never have to attend a settlement in person.

    Although, HUD did have a rule that settlement must be in person when buying their foreclosure properties.

  • NewKidInTown326th January, 2008

    I have done lots of closings by overnight mail both as the buyer and as the seller. Fax machine, wire transfers, and FedEx means I never have to attend a settlement in person.

    Although, HUD did have a rule that settlement must be in person when buying their foreclosure properties.

  • ypochris26th January, 2008

    Here I have never yet seen a final HUD before I got to the closing table.

    Chris

  • ICGPROPERTIES26th December, 2007

    please explain "e-mail secret"

  • ICGPROPERTIES26th December, 2007

    Interesting. I have never not been able to get to loss mit.

  • imoapie27th December, 2007

    I know that for Chase it is @jpmchase.com. Not sure of what preceeds the @ but I can find out at work tomorrow and let you know.

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