Web Page Program / Service
I'm not a techie and need some web page program advice. I'm looking to construct a web page
that will be able to collect info for an on-line application; and
for my properties to rent / sell / showcase
Can you suggest a program to use / purchase? Who are you using for hosting?
All advice will be heeded for this DIY project.
Microsoft Front Page.
Macromedia Dreamweaver is the most versitile I have found. Not as cheap as FrontPage, but well worth the money.
Depends on what you're looking for. If you use FrontPage, you're going to need a Windows hosting provider - which is more expensive than UNIX.
DreamWeaver totally rocks - but there can be a pretty steep learning curve, if you're not very technical to begin with.
There are lots of sites out there that have DIY tools associated with their hosting packages that give you pretty decent templates and forms, and don't require learning how to code. www.1and1.com is awesome, they have a great DIY tool, and their prices are FANTASTIC ($2.99/month for hosting, includes 15 page DIY website - $5.99/year for domain!).
I haven't used them for anything other than development work, but I'd definitely recommend them. I've worked with that DIY vendor, and there are awesome upgrades coming up very soon.
If you have more questions, PM me - I used to be a web developer, by trade.
- Mandi
Mandi has a good point. It depends on the flexibility you need. If you don't know html, or javascript, it is probably best you start with DIY. You can also usually get a high schooler, or middle schooler who can do some web dev if you don't want to. Being a computer nerd myself, I generally like to code it myself, but that also means most often there are things that don't get done.
I hear that!
I just did a really quick search, and honestly, I don't think there is a better deal anywhere than 1and1's got going. I worked for one of their competitors for a long time, and those guys just blow the doors off the rest of the industry.
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On 2004-09-13 21:55, bnorton wrote:
...I generally like to code it myself, but that also means most often there are things that don't get done.
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Depends on what you're looking for. If you use FrontPage, you're going to need a Windows hosting provider - which is more expensive than UNIX.
That's not entirely correct. Some unix/linux providers can and do provide frontpage extensions.
Yes, but by and large, would you ever want to mix a Microsucks system with a *NIX system? You're bound to lose either functionality or support capabilities (particularly for low-cost providers - those guys generally know one thing well).
I suppose I'm also just biased against FP, but I do understand its market appeal.
I can't sleep now because this thread has reminded me of all the little dev projects I've been meaning to do for months now. Dang geek insomnia!
- Mandi
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On 2004-09-13 23:43, AndrewKT wrote:
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Depends on what you're looking for. If you use FrontPage, you're going to need a Windows hosting provider - which is more expensive than UNIX.
That's not entirely correct. Some unix/linux providers can and do provide frontpage extensions.
Just becuase everybody is doing it, doesn't mean that is the best road traveled.
I tell everybody to write it in PHP. Instead of ASP. Once you write in ASP, you are locked into Microsoft products. Where as if you develop in PHP, you can use a Microsoft Backend OR Unix Backend.
I am pro Linux, but I still want to keep TCI's options open.
Quote:There is usually a reason why a product dominates a market such as Word, Excel, Access and of course FP.
Like I said Joel, computer nerds like a product designed for them, with all the bells and whistles, and all the open ended options they can get.
Non-techies need something that is going to get the job done for them. ASP, PHP, or PCP, it is all irrelevant to the poster starting this thread.
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There is usually a reason why a product dominates a market such as Word, Excel, Access and of course FP
You are correct. The reason is because Microsoft has an awesome marketing model. Just about anyone with a mediocre product can be incredibly successful using the Microsoft marketing model.[ Edited by bnorton on Date 09/14/2004 ]
Regardless of platform or web bot features, FrontPage still has a learning curve associated with it that many of the web-enabled DIYs tool don't. Granted, it's very Word-like, but that may or may not mean much to a non-techie.
I still suggest www.1and1.com and their DIY tool, the WebsiteCreator. It's a step-by-step website, and you can complete one (with neat features like a Flash intro!) in about 5 minutes. No FTP required, since it already has all your account info.
- Mandi
Gavbo:
I would suggest checking out www.investorpro.com They have realestate websites all ready to go for a very reasonable price. If you have no experience, you are going to spend many hours doing all the graphics, hiring webmasters and getting it all set up. What is your time worth?
www.investorpro.com
Best regards,
Jeff Adam
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Another thing that you might consider is hiring designer to do this for you.
You can have a simple 5 page website created from scratch for under $50. Just post a project on www.Scriptlance.com.
Unless you want to give up real estate to learn fundamental web development, hire someone to take care of all aspects of the site. For the time you will spend and the frustration you will feel, you will wish that you had hired someone.
Also, what are you hoping that this site will do for your business? Are you hoping that it will create new business, or that it will just reinforce your existing business? My point is that you should not think that if you build it they will come. They will not come to your site except via other marketing literature that you distribute. More than likely, nobody is going to "find" your website. They are going to see your website address on postcards, letters, business cards or other marketing material of yours and then go to your site to find out more. So do not spend money on a web site if you are not already sending out letters, postcards, etc.
Brenda
As a computer engineer, I would suggest hiring someone to build the site for you. I have bailed out a few people who bought some DIY tool and figured that they would be able to put together their own site without any technical knowledge. Every person I have seen in your shoes has been able to get the site about 90% complete, and then ends up totally frustrated because of the limitations or bugs in the tool they chose. Since I know how to design web sites by hand, I am able to come in and finish the last 10% for them and get their site up and running. PM me if you would like some help from me, my goal is to purchase a property in PA (my home state) sometime this year, so maybe we could work out some sort of agreement.
I would go to www.Openhousevision.com and buy one of their templates... Its really cheap and can handle just about everything including properties
One more thing, when putting out these flyers, have any of you gotten calls from people who were irate or worse yet threatened some sort of legal action, or calling some other authority? And if so, do they have a legit claim, or are they just huffing and puffing? And how should I deal with this? more ads on their street? heh
Thanx-
3 to 5 % response sounds high to me. If you assume a 1% response and you put out 200 flyers, the probability that you will receive no responses is .134 (13.4%). Receiving no responses is not a statistically outrageous outcome. If you put out 500 flyers, the probability that you will receive no responses is .0066( .66%). If you put out 1000 flyers, the probability that you will receive no responses is .000043( .0043%). Receiving no responses with 1000 flyers is looking a bit outrageous!
To my knowledge, the FBI only deals with federal offenses. In as much as flyering a door is subject only to city or maybe state laws, I highly doubt the FBI would be doing such things. I think it is a safe bet he is lying.
Jason
Well, the person on the phone was telling me that he and others were staking out several houses in my area along with working with other homeowners to try to nab solicitors that try to send ads/calls to these houses then sue the hell out of the advertiser.
I think he was more along the lines of telling me that he was a prosecutor that works for the FBI and that he was just giving me the heads up on the situation.
He also tried to insinuate that my partner and I take advantage of the deaf, dumb and dying. And kept on assuming that I needed a license to buy when I clearly explained that I dont list, we BUY them. He was trying to be nice, in a assy sort of way. I wish I had caller ID and written down the time he called so I can at least block his number or something.
I should find out tommorow if this is a real deal thats going on or not by calling up my city officials. Again, this guy probably is pulling my leg, but I hate to leave the possibility that he may be right and this may be a "brand new operation" that he and others are doing.
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Well, the person on the phone was telling me that he and others were staking out several houses in my area along with working with other homeowners to try to nab solicitors that try to send ads/calls to these houses then sue the hell out of the advertiser.
I think he was more along the lines of telling me that he was a prosecutor that works for the FBI and that he was just giving me the heads up on the situation.
He also tried to insinuate that my partner and I take advantage of the deaf, dumb and dying. And kept on assuming that I needed a license to buy when I clearly explained that I dont list, we BUY them. He was trying to be nice, in a assy sort of way. I wish I had caller ID and written down the time he called so I can at least block his number or something.
I should find out tommorow if this is a real deal thats going on or not by calling up my city officials. Again, this guy probably is pulling my leg, but I hate to leave the possibility that he may be right and this may be a "brand new operation" that he and others are doing.
Hi Joe,
I know this happens a while ago. What was the outcome of this situation?
Thank you,
Peter
Be careful I hear the FBI is watching Gas Stations too
you might approach probate lawyers. The probate courts possibly will have some insight of other places to find out some of the information that you are looking for also.
Good luck,
Jeff
Yes, there is valuable info at the court house. The records are public info. I just go down and ask for a file # which was printed in the legal section of our newspaper. You can glean from the file who the executor is, sometimes what the home is valued at, what other assets are involved, & heirs names and addresses. Some people say not to bother with the ones where a lawyer is listed as the executor(harder to deal with). Just go down there & see what is available.
Kelly(WI)