Risk And Expected Returns

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I find it curious that nobody ever talks about the returns that realistically can be expected investing in tax liens. Numbers like 15, 16, 18% are always bandied about, but I haven't talked to anybody who would confirm making returns like this in real life. Maybe there's a reason for that...

Let me give you some of my own experiences, hopefully to start a discussion. The first risk, as has been discussed many times over on this board, is due diligence. Ideally, you want to do what everybody tells you, check out the property, look at liens, bankruptcy etc. In real life, you are confronted with hundreds or thousands of liens of which you will get a tiny fraction. It depends on what your time is worth, but you need to make an allowance when calculating expected return.

In my experience, the majority of individual investors skip due diligence and sacrifice some of their return by ending up with right of ways, common areas, land under water, or assessor's mistakes. Many of those still seem to make a return on their money, although it may be in the small single digits. Personally, I check on the assessments, and trust the assessor to at least do a reasonable job. It lets you eliminate most, but not all of the garbage. Then I take my chances. Out of 500 or so liens I invested in I only have two that have not been redeemed. In one case, a tree fell on a vacant house, in the other , a preacher had taken over the house of a deceased fan, collecting rent without paying taxes. A prime candidate for going to deed, but believe me, it's not worth the hassle. Again, those failures cut into your expected return but it's a clear tradeoff with the amount of work you put in.

The second area of concern are the laws governing the tax sale, and how they are interpreted by the county. It is well known that you can't get those 18% returns in FL or the 16% in AZ because the bidding systems won't let you ( in contrast to, say, IA or LA). But it is less obvious that state laws also can mess up your return in more subtle ways, by putting in onerous notification requirements (see my earlier post on LA)
or by making you responible for clean-ups - and I'm not just talking about toxic stuff. In AL, you are responsible for city-mandated clean-ups of vacant lots or homes, and it's not clear if you get your money if the lien is redeemed (which it most likely won't).

Finally, there are the real screw-ups on the county level. In my experience, this is far and away the biggest impediment on return, mainly cause it's completely out of my control. First, there are refunds of your money after one, two, or three years - without interest - because of all kinds of errors - double assessments, notification errors, not following procedure etc. In some counties, I get refunds on more than 10% of the liens. In Hancock County, MS they just cancelled a whole tax sale from three years ago because a clerk didn't follow procedure. Sometimes, state law gives you some protection, but you can't count on it, and in some states you are lucky if you actually get a refund without having to go to court - which may cost you many times the amount of the lien.

So, after all this, what is the return you can reasonably expect? In my experience, with my procedures as described above, it's around 10% annualized. These are tax liens spread over 4 states which pay between 12 and 17%.

It's about the same return I get investing conservatively (no high tech etc) in the stock market. Which, for me, is much less work. Would love to hear from people who get consistently higher returns.

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  • richen14th December, 2003

    You have posted obviously a very interesting message. I must first admit that i have not invested in the tax lien market long enough to be able to tell you that I can say definitively what a long term outcome will look like. However, I wonder if you are doing the right investments inthe right geographic areaas if that is all you are getting in terms of yield, assuming that you have not factored in opportunity cost of your own time. But then, if you do, how much are you charging yourself for your own work?

    First of all, everyone I know of has a finite amount of capital to work with, and so, if you have a limited amount of capital to invest in, I must disagree with you to some degree.

    Lete us take for example a theorectical example. There are a number of lien states that sell liens at face value, such as Nebraska(round robin) and Iowa (percentage ownership) and Rhode Island (percentage ownership) etc.. These states all offer pretty decent interet rates/penalties (for the first year, 14%, 24% and 16% respectively). In all three states, there are very few truly bad liens to buy, though obviously there are some. But if you did your due diligence, you should be able to worry little about those possibilities. Let us assume that a very small percentage of these liens purchased every year goes to deed, say 0.5%?? In most of these states, since you are paying only the face value of the lien to purchase the liens, you should be able to assume that the lien to value ratio is no higher than 1% typically. That means that for an investment of 200 liens, that statistically, 199 redeems for face value plus interest/penalties and the one lien that did not redeem will fetch you one hundred times its original investment amount. So, if all liens are at the same value, let's assume, then a purchase of $200,000 (assuming avg cost per lien is $1000) the investment will return you around $300,000, or a 50% return on your investment over the redemption period plus liquidation time involved.

    Also, if you go check in any sale frequented by large institutional investors, I believe that you would typically find that the non-institutional investors will have almost always have a much higher percentage (in $ terms) of foreclosure than institutional buyers. That should translate into higher returns for individual buyers than for institutional investors. The only difference being that the institutional investors are able to leverage their investment by borrowing at low interest rates and increasing the yield on their leveraged capital, whereas the individual is typically unable to leverage their capital.

    Just my 2c.

    RC

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